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Dec 22, 2012 2:30am PST
economy. >> you talk about fiscal cliff. through so much of the election season we talk about uncertainty and people do not plan in the face of uncertainty. after that, once this is resolved in one way or another. what do you think small business owners will do, the ones that you speak with? >> i think coming in 2013, the big issues will be tax reform. even though we're addressing the fiscal cliff, there's a larger budget looming and tax reform will be a big component of that. what's it going to look like and i also think health reform. the health reform law is here to stay. 2013 is that drop dead date of when everything is supposed to be implemented so next year is going to be a critical year where we see everything plays out and what it means in terms of cost of coverage. >> okay. bill, so it was your survey or the nfib survey that showed that pessimism. we had you guys for a little while, but now you've gone back to where it was. what do you think will turn people's attitudes around, get them more optimistic again? >> well, i think we have to get consumers to be a little mo
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